Friday 19 April 2024

There are TWO types of those who have forsaken Christ

This piece was posted in reply to a video saying that the problem with Lutheran preaching is soft antinomianism.


And my slowly evolving position is summarized in the title I append here, namely that there are TWO types of those who have forsaken Christ, and not just the one, namely the legalist


It is as follows:


 if the Lutherans preach the gospel the problem is NOT their teaching.

the thing is human nature has ONLY two alternatives,

legalism which is to forsake Christ for the Law, being fooled by the idea that their efforts do constitute  true law keeping ( they do not) and that these efforts  are obedience to the Holy Spirit ( they are not)

or lawlessness which is falsely called grace but which, in refusing to come to him personally in one on one relationship is no such thing. 

real grace TRANSFORMS the recipient and that as a process of renewal of the mind in one one one discipleship

to see no transformation even over years in an easy believer is to see that they have forsaken Christ for self indulgence

and to see only deterioration in the legalist over years -  and because law stirs up sin and makes it worse deterioration is the only possible outcome  - is to see that they  have  forsaken Christ for the law

the  problem is UNBELIEF, not the unbelief of failing to assent to proposition but the failure of coming to the Lord the spirit  IN PERSON to be changed,  healed and nurtured by Him:

IN PERSON

I come at this from the pole of an  extreme legalist. it is my besetting sin.

the dynamic of coming to the lord to be transformed in person  ( AND STAYING WITH HIM)  to become what the Law requires is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from that of the legalist vainly trying to keep a law he cannot keep and hoping for a help that never comes. Moreover that dynamic of coming to the Lord in person is likewise totally different to that  of the easy believer who thinks that merely being a Christian, or even only assenting to some doctrinal shibboleths is the same thing as having a relationship with Christ


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