Somebody, it does not matter who, for I have heard this arguent before, posted this as a prelude to a video disputing Penal Substitution Atonement
I have a moral conundrum as well as struggling with the penal substitution theory of atonement. If I can forgive without anyone being punished, how is it that The Creator needs someone to be punished? How do I have a power that my Creator doesn't have?
and I replied:
God requires someone to be punished because transgression against Him is INFINITELY WORSE than any transgression against any of us. For He is God.
In thinking you have a power God does not have, you have lowered God. and definitely exalted yourself.
Who do you think you are???
He has the power to cleanse sin by the forgiving of it. you do not. none of us do. as his forgiveness is more powerful than ours so is his wrath, both in its extent and its intensity as well as its intrinsic moral quality
You have completely forgotten that He is greater than any of us by framing your question as if he were merely a human like us.
Moreover if you object to God punishing someone in your place are you of that kind of tough moral pride whereby you will take your own damnation like a man???.
This quibble of yours is based on your own self righteousness and pride and NOTHING ELSE
Penal substitution is about GOD's NATURE not ours.
If God declares that He requires that the sinner die and then graciously offers that some one else dies in my place or even your place who are you or any of us to deny this??
Besides, and i will leave you with this,if the hurt from any human's cruelty is deep enough you can ONLY forgive him by being led to repent of your own unforgiveness, and that requires that someone pay the price for your sins of forgiveness. so in the final analysis it simply is not true that you can forgive anyone without anyone being punished.
And thus it is simply not true that you have a power God does not have. This very notion stems from a deadly misconception
Have a care!!! penal substitution IS the gospel.
Reject that and damn yourself. but he will lead you to acceptance of it if you are willing to be led to repent.
. . . and this on the basis of course that Someone Else paid the price for your self righteousness (and mine for i quibbled about these as well) [
